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Old July 21st, 2008, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do you still have 'faith' in DXS

... and if so, WHY?

There are so many very visible and negative things surrounding DXS at the moment that I find it very hard to be even the slightest bit positive (as I am sure most have noticed and the fair majority of you are in the same boat with me)

And yet there are still some who manage to maintain a positive outlook toward DXS. But despite this faith, I have not seen a single argument yet that substantiates any reason to have faith.

So I'm coming clean ... I have lost the faith and would love to get it back.

Is there anybody out there that can help me regain my faith in DXS?
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Old July 21st, 2008, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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... and if so, WHY?

There are so many very visible and negative things surrounding DXS at the moment that I find it very hard to be even the slightest bit positive (as I am sure most have noticed and the fair majority of you are in the same boat with me)

And yet there are still some who manage to maintain a positive outlook toward DXS. But despite this faith, I have not seen a single argument yet that substantiates any reason to have faith.

So I'm coming clean ... I have lost the faith and would love to get it back.

Is there anybody out there that can help me regain my faith in DXS?
I don't think you really understand what people mean when they say they have "faith". Faith means that you believe WITHOUT proof, reasons, evidence, or anything else. Some people have faith in various religions, movements such as "The Secret", crystal healing, unicorns, and the tooth fairy.

I've never seen a leprechaun or a gnome. But I love the idea that somewhere, in this world, there may be such a thing. It just that nobody has proved it yet.

Faith is optimism. It's not saying "I can't prove this so it must not exist." It's saying "I haven't seen or proven or touched this YET."

Allan, nobody can give you faith. Reasons, proof, and faith are not the same thing. If you want proof or reasons, ask for those things. Nobody can tell you what to believe in or think or feel.

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Old July 21st, 2008, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I second what April said.

BUT

For the sake of not wandering into religious discussion (not allowed here) I'm going to restrict my comments to only DXS/GDT. I am still a believer in the concepts of DX and think they will eventually work for some entity other than Merv and cronies. I can go so far as to say I had faith but after observing where that faith took me I can also definitively say there is no longer faith in DX. Where did that faith take me? It took me eventually to reading an interview in which the supposed top dog in DX said screw you. With that attitude DXS/GDT gave me all the proof I needed to decide where to put my faith and it most assuredly is not in them.
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Old July 21st, 2008, 02:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm going to reach here, and i'm also going to temporarily break our TOS... so please forgive me, as it is necessary to get my point across.

People have faith in DXS.
People have faith in god / goddess / gods (being non-discriminative here)

People can't see DXS
People can't see god / goddess / gods

There are valid arguments that DXS is gone for good.
There are valid arguments that god / goddess / gods don't exist

There are events that suggest DXS are still around (ie. updated email addresses, etc)
There are events that suggest god / goddess / gods do exist

... just saying, is all.
 
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Old July 21st, 2008, 02:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Allan, nobody can give you faith. Reasons, proof, and faith are not the same thing. If you want proof or reasons, ask for those things. Nobody can tell you what to believe in or think or feel.
OK. So this is where I go completely nuts.

I asked for proof ... and got nothing.

I asked for reasons ... and got nothing.

So now I am left with asking what drives your faith?

If the answer comes back as nothing again then I will simply have to give up and continue pointing out all the blatantly obvious, idiotic, mismanaged, and negative things to DXS.

Unless someone can give me a concrete positive. That's all I am asking for for.
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OK. So this is where I go completely nuts.

I asked for proof ... and got nothing.

I asked for reasons ... and got nothing.

So now I am left with asking what drives your faith?

If the answer comes back as nothing again then I will simply have to give up and continue pointing out all the blatantly obvious, idiotic, mismanaged, and negative things to DXS.

Unless someone can give me a concrete positive. That's all I am asking for for.
When it comes to faith, the answer is "I just believe." There ARE NO reasons or proof. Feel free to carry on with the complaints, but it won't change anything.

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It could be said that if there were proof, one would not need "faith".

It could also be said that those who do have faith also have some kind of proof... but that would be wild speculation and nothing more.
 
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I have to agree with April. By definition - faith needs no proof, rhyme or reason. Its just believing against all odds, and requires nothing solid or substantial to back it up.

No one can tell you why they have faith, just that they do. "I believe" is all they need to say. There doesn't need to be a "reason to believe". That's the difference between scientific believers and faith believers. Scientists need formulas and proofs to prove something. Faith believers just need to feel it in their heart, no proof is necessary.

However, back to DXS.

My personal belief is that the concept as originally shown to us is sound, and I do believe that had it been carried out with a good business plan, good management, and solid backing it would have taken the internet by storm.

Now years have passed.

So many of the things that DXS was built on are already in existance. And some have even been bundled into one site or package.

Does it really need to be all-in-one anymore? Yes it would be nice and convenient, but there are already so many stores, auctions, travel sites, eCurrencies, marketing, and advertising sites that are cross-selling, I think the more relevant question is do we really NEED DXS anymore?

What originally captivated me, and I think most others was the concept of the "ecurrency exchange". The rest was added (at least made known to us) "later". We loved the idea of being able to use one currency for everything everywhere, or at least being able to exchange what we HAD for what we NEEDED, and were even willing to pay a fee for that exchange.

I feel THAT concept still has merit. I think people would love to be able to do those kinds of exchanges online.

Now, here's the hard question - "Will a valid e-currency exchange site have the kind of activity we saw on DXS"? I honestly don't think so. It was the round robin affect of people thinking they could make millions in as short a period of time as they possibly could that kept that frenzy up. When we realized we were all just getting each other's money, and there was nothing to actually back it up, I think we all kind of saw the writing on the wall, much as we didn't want to admit it.

In order for an exchange site to work, it would need "income" other than just the fees, because I don't think the "volume" would be there to generate the kind of income level we'd want to see. That means advertising has to be added, perhaps stores, auctions, etc, etc. etc. and we're right back to the general concept of DXS again.

So, do I have faith in DXS? If you're actually asking do I have faith in the people (or person) behind DXS, the answer is NO. Merv has not proven to me that he has the tools necessary to pull it off. He has no management skills, certainly no customer service skills, no communication skills, and no more backup funds to carry anything out at all, even as small as keeping a domain name paid for, or a site up and running. No, I have no faith that Merv can pull it off as it sits right now.

Do I have faith that someone, somewhere can make this work? Yes, the idea, and the concept is solid. There is a need, and there are obviously people that would use this service. Will anyone step up to the plate with the amount of funds necessary, and the TEAM in place to do it? I don't know. And I DO feel strongly that it will take a TEAM to pull this kind of thing off successfully. Its WAY to big for a one man show if its going to be done right, and in any reasonable amount of time. It could happen. Is it happening right now? I don't think so.

Do I think Merv is a character worth watching and keeping an eye on? I most certainly do. Anyone that can dream this big and get this close to pulling it off is definitely someone to watch. In all truth, he did get very close, and he kept it up and running for a number of years before it all came crashing down. I think his biggest enemy was himself. He didn't have the skills himself and he hired the wrong people. The "Team" couldn't make it happen. But I DO think he is a big thinker, and who knows what idea he may come up with next???

As my Dad always says, you can' win, if you're not in the game. And if he keeps trying, (and for all intent and purpose, he appears to be doing just that with his phone VOIP venture) - he just may hit the jack pot some day in spite of himself.

Will it be DXS? NO
Will it be his VOIP service? Only time will tell
Will he keep trying? I think so

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