Garage Logician

And I still think his attorneys are strongly advising against any public statements at this time.

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lynnette

I feel the only reason he gave that interview was because people at various forums kept on and on at the Vanuatu Daily Post asking them to get an interview with him or investigate him because a lot of people had lost money over this, they have been asking them to do this to my knowledge for well over a year. Then a news release came out telling people about his new venture (because he wanted customers) of telecommunications for the Vanuatu general public: The Vanuatu Daily Post - GDT to expand e-commerce activity in Vanuatu and the paper was again beseiged with disgruntled people. He had to give this interview and try to explain himself if he wanted to be taken seriously in Vanuatu or the paper would have probably labelled him a scammer straight away.

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Lynnette
If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always got. If you want what you've never had, you have to do what you've never done.

floyd

I still maintain that the people behind the major money/economic forces in the world will not let another economy take over. Not gonna happen.

Succeed2k

No. My issue is with someone who builds a business, launches it so as to accept funds from people, and then decide to take the site down (whether on purpose, or for financial reasons) WITHOUT even bothering to contact those members and explain to them why.

What i know about Merv is based purely on his actions, and those actions are NOT the kind you would expect from a reputable businessman.

No it doesn't, it implies the "here and now".

No i do not. All i know is that Merv is "somewhere". That interview was disgusting to say the least. The way he (assuming it was him) spoke of his membership sickened me, and just reinforces my comment above re: his actions.

I don't know about you, but i've been around the internet marketing world for a number of years and i have seen HUNDREDS of scam artists come and go, and they ALL have one thing in common. They have a site online that takes funds, they go offline for long periods of time and they pop up with news articles about what they are planning, to try and keep the "hope" going. Right now, i don't know if Merv is a scammer or not. I'm on the fence on that issue, and i really do HOPE he's not. But i've been around too long to just have faith in someone like Merv. To me, that would be a stupid and reckless thing to do. Sorry if you disagree with me.

I totally agree with you. However, saying that, even if Merv gets this off the ground, his actions and his total disregard and disrespect for his membership will have already done too much damage.

Seriously! How the hell is me stating a fact a lynching term? Do you disagree? Do you believe that if her were in the U.S. that the SEC would just ignore him and let him on his way?

I suggest you stop reading my posts, as you obviously are not able to read them properly. I said "IF...". I never said i want him locked up. I never said i want him taken out back and the **** kicked out of him. I said IF HE WERE IN THIS COUNTRY HE WOULD BE... that's a solid fact, regardless of whether you agree with it or not.

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campco

Hi,

In this description you make it look like a one month scam. Remind yourself how long it took to build the system, and how long it worked more or less properly. Remind the efforts DXS took to overcome what happenend to the system in fighting the results of the inflation. I know and agree that most responsible for the wrong going lies with DXS but nevertheless they didn't walk away and took interest in correcting. They didn't run away like that.
I agree completely with you that the membership deserve(d) a better treatment then we got!

You mean probably: ......purely based on what I've seen of his actions,.....
What we've seen since say January doesn't make me either, but I refrain from having a judgement over this as I do not know all the ins and outs. I have no clue on what efforts he made to overcome this debacle. In his place I would have been more open to the membership in an earlier stage. Openness right now will not be welcomed as was allready described here. People will start shouting for their funds as soon Mervs had shows up around the corner.

I've written some about the 'screw you' and I think you are referring to that part. I choose to think he's not shouting at me, but he's putting his anger towards those that in fact emptied the system without him realising it. But it was his responsibility, as Ken pointed it out. I sai also That I didn't like him to use these words in general, but ala it happened wehther it be the resposibilty of the reporter or himself.
For the other part, the information he gave about the future plans etc. I don't remember feeling disgust.

In this quote again you simplify the history of DXS. It is not as you describe (see my comment above), but you choose to put it in these words to make Merv look equal to a Scam Artist. After that you come and say: "Right now, i don't know if Merv is a scammer or not." By using a description that doesn't fit (as the history shows us a lot more then you are willing to bring forward) you in fact call him a Scam Artist despite your doubts afterwards.

I have my doubts too and faith in any business man is a tricky thing; as any person can have bad luck in business. Combined with an attitude of not communicating the proper way it can be desastrous as we've seen until now. My faith is more directed to the concept of DXS, which is still marvelous in my eyes. Being that it can be a moneyspinner for all of us and (even) a person like Merv would be rediculous to not use this in his own benfit; which will be ours as well.

How much the damage will be..??? To us it is obvious. We all have more or less mixed feelings about the way things go (not go). But after a renewed start, showing that it is a monyspinner the crowd will come up again to pick up the dimes.

First of all, there's nothing to go to court for I think. Bad business is not a crime. You can bring a person to court to find out if he or she is responsible for the debacle and fine him to repay, but that's about all. And, yes, I think in the States business people get away with their practices. The current US Ambassador has bought him his ambassadorship in the Netherlands by paying a lot of money for Bush's campaign. He 'earned' the money with selling mortgages with very high interest to people who in fact couldn't pay for the moment economy goes down. Thanks to those crooks we're facing a worldwide going down of economics. Reading back what I just wrote I see I'm doing the same with this guy as I think you do with Merv; we both do not know enough to have a clear picture and judgement over it.

Succeed2k

Correct, nobody knows quite enough to make a truly solid judgement call. We can, and do however make judgements based on what we have seen, can see, and do already know. Isn't that the way it is with every aspect of life?

I have 2 neighbours, one believes his car is the best in the street, the other believes in his religion. I disagree with both these people, but i'm pretty sure that neither means they are right, or that i'm wrong. In fact, i'm sure to them, they're both right.

My point is, one persons view of DXS and anothers are never going to be the same because we all perceive things differently.

For me personally, I have no problem believing in the concept behind DXS. I will not however fully support it if Merv is the person controlling it. If the concept is created by other people, then great, i'll probably very cautiously look into it. But while Merv controls DXS, i personally want to get my funds out, and then keep only enough there to keep an eye on events.

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CuriousGeorge

I would like to point out that a few YEARS ago, and several times since then, while we were still a DX centered site, we offered Merv a tightly controlled section of the forum for him to communicate with our forum members. He consistently refused each and every time.

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PsionicTrader

And here is the jist of it all.

Does a business survive solely on the idea(s) they implement or service(s) they offer?

OR

Does a business survive solely on the good ethics and habits of its owners/operators?

The answer of course is NO to both of them.

A good owner/businessman cannot make a business survive without having a useable product, idea, or service.
Nor can a good idea, service, product survive without good business practices from its owner(s)/operators.

I believe DX was doomed from the start simply because it falls into the catagory of:

A good idea unable to survive BECAUSE it didnt have the good owner/operator.

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