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Old July 2nd, 2008, 12:43 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Succeed2k many members wish you were not here with all your negativity and arqumentative remarks. If this were my forum I would have canned you as administrator long ago.
If so many members wish that, why is it you're the first person to mention it? I'm sure there are many who wish i were not here. There are probably people who wished other people on this forum weren't here either. I'm afraid not liking someone is an essential part of group dynamics on a community forum.

You may see me as negative.. that's something that only you and others can decide upon. I prefer to think of myself as brutally honest and realistic. If i see a spade, i'll call it a spade.

You know what i find most ironic?

For years, this forum was the heart and soul of communication re: DXS. We were strict with our rules, we shut down any thread that was not backed up by facts and we made sure that we only ever posted things that could be proven or backed up.

And we got a LOT of bad-press because of it.

Now, most of the posts that you and others complain about (and yes, i'm afraid i do see some posts as complaints more than random comments) are simply people, both users and admin (who are also users remember), posting their anger, frustration and dismay at the site being offline, and the lack of communication.

BOTH of which are things that are factual, and able to be backed up.

So what is it you want us to do? Full cencorship? only pro-DXS comments?

The site is down, Merv is nowhere to be seen, and hundreds, if not thousands of members have funds that are simply nowhere to be seen. How is it you can be positive about that? If you are realistic, you get labeled negative. If you complain, you're labeled negative. If you question why the site is down, you're labeled negative.

As for being argumentative... if a post is made that calls me out, i'll answer it. You'll find, if you look at the history of certain people who post here, they are far more argumentative than i could ever want to be.
 
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 01:19 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Succeed2k many members wish you were not here with all your negativity and arqumentative remarks. If this were my forum I would have canned you as administrator long ago.
Robbie. I am surprised at you. This statement is simply not like you at all.

Sam has provided a great deal of input to this forum, both positive and negative. He has been here from the beginning and the forum may very well not still be here if it wasn't for him being part of this team.

EVERY member of this forum, including staff and admin, have every right to post whatever they want so long as it falls within our forum rules. If someone wants to be negative about something then they have the right to be so ... and most of the time if that negativity is unwarrented then other members will show them they are wrong.

Saying that 'many members wish you were not here' could very well be classed as speculation (which we still frown upon) as there is no evidence that this is actually the case. (Of course, if I am wrong, then I am sure those many members will express themselves right here)
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 03:24 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Allan you know better then that! You're turning things upside down except for the 'not-working-ness'.

The reason for that is the features not being in place (yet) and that again is the reason for not having the website in the air. About needing us; without us he's nothing. The only thing DXS is now, is this forum. Without this forum DXS isn't mentioned anywhere in the world. For me, if one isn't mentioned anymore he's really dead, dead as dead can be.

Regards,

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Looking at my contribution in this discussion, I'm just giving an explanation of how I interpret what the interview says: I'm not saying I agree. We, the members are entitled to have a website online if only to have an opportunity to communicate, as you say.

Guru is giving a different interpretation on which I do not agree; in the interview is said that because the features are not fully workable now, the system is not working (not able to make profits) and THEREFOR, 'he doesn't need a website'.

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The reason for that is the features not being in place (yet) and that again is the reason for not having the website in the air.
In the next part I just show that Merv needs this forum, without it DXS is not mentioned at all, nowhere and therefor dead. So implicit it is a compliment to 4AllAccount that they/you/we are still around and somehow keep DXS alive. Said and explained this I do not understand why this hostile reaction:
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I guess Merv is lucky we still give a damn then huh? I wonder how Merv would feel if we turned the other way and publically posted out disgust at him and his company on the front page?
By the way Sam, if we disagree, no problem. But calling other persons contribution complete bull**** (spell it out completely or refrain from it at all!!!) is an indirect way of calling names, which I dislike very much. I know you asked forgiveness but that was before you wrote it, so it was premeditated and thus even worse .

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Old July 2nd, 2008, 03:36 PM   #74 (permalink)
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The "official stance" of this forum may well be neutral, but there has been plenty of "public disgust" posted by leadership...

I guess my point to Sam is don't say you're not doing it when you are!
The above statement doesn't deserve to be attacked as it only referenced the following:
"I guess Merv is lucky we still give a damn then huh? I wonder how Merv would feel if we turned the other way and publically posted out disgust at him and his company on the front page?"
Which seems like a matter of semantics (for lack of a better word) as it looks like Sam's discust ..is.. being publically posted but..........................so what, that's his opinion and I too believe that "The Glimmer Man" is lucky "we" still give a damn.
 
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM   #75 (permalink)
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No offense taken Ben.

What I meant by pointing out where Merv stated 'we do not need a website' is that this line of thought just goes to show how much DXS gives a dam when it comes to existing members.

Just because the services are not yet operating is no excuse not to have an online presence. How long did DXS have a site online with very little services operating before?

Do DXS need a website? No they don't need one to facilitate the services which are STILL non-existent ... but they certainly DO need a website to show their current membership that they do still care and to provide updates on what is actually happening.

How much of this discussion do you think would have happened if DXS had stayed online and simply disabled the majority of features (which they have done beforehand)?

The longer DXS continues without a website, the more they prove they have no interest in the current membership.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 04:18 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Succeed2k many members wish you were not here with all your negativity and arqumentative remarks. If this were my forum I would have canned you as administrator long ago.
Well RobbieMor I am one of the silent majority that agrees with you !

My way of dealing with the situation is that I simply don't read that particular Admins comments; I find that if I do it just irritates me........... so why bother.

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Old July 2nd, 2008, 04:51 PM   #77 (permalink)
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No offense taken Ben.

What I meant by pointing out where Merv stated 'we do not need a website' is that this line of thought just goes to show how much DXS gives a dam when it comes to existing members.

Just because the services are not yet operating is no excuse not to have an online presence. How long did DXS have a site online with very little services operating before?

Do DXS need a website? No they don't need one to facilitate the services which are STILL non-existent ... but they certainly DO need a website to show their current membership that they do still care and to provide updates on what is actually happening.

How much of this discussion do you think would have happened if DXS had stayed online and simply disabled the majority of features (which they have done beforehand)?

The longer DXS continues without a website, the more they prove they have no interest in the current membership.

Hi Allan,

The way you point this out now, we agree!!!

regards,

Ben

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Old July 2nd, 2008, 04:59 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Hi,

I just noticed that a word like bull**** can not be displayed as it is written. I protest severely against this way of sencorship; any word should be allowed fully or not at all. As I said: spell it out completely or refrain from it at all!!!

Are there other words restricted like this and could the policy regarding this be changed in a less hypocrit one???

Regards,

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Old July 2nd, 2008, 05:37 PM   #79 (permalink)
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