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dx4allpro · April 19th, 2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbieMor

My take on it, part by part.

1. The DXCredit is the result of the activity after all the reductions have been made and even after the OA fees have been deducted from the system credit. To reduce or remove the DXCredit the amount of OA fees shown in the statement records would need to be deducted from the DXGold balance.

They want to leave our DXGold balance intact. If DXCredit is removed, then they have nowhere to take the OA fees from except our DXStandard. The would prefer not to have to do this.

2. The system is in a good position now with almost all the reductions completed and the negatives paid out for those users who output greater than their input, all the fees have been paid out from the system credit leaving the users with their input value in DXGold and the DXCredit all paid for up to now.

This is good to hear. They are telling us that the system is finally in balance.

3. So it's up to the users if they want to pay the Service fee on what DXCredit there is

So we can either pay our OA Fee from our DXStandard in the Incoming Balance, or with Federal Gold. That fee would be "on what DXCredit there is". This would not reduce the amount of DXCredit in our accounts but would allow us to have OutXchanges procesed faster. Note: Federal Gold has an additional advantage. See other post on this subject.

4. or allow the Service fee that is charged to from the DXCredit amount to lower the figure over the months ahead.

This would be a good option for those of us with large amounts of DXCredit. This option would reduce your DXCredit by 3% a month and your portfollio would not earn. It would NOT speed up your OutXchanges but you can still OutXchange.

All in all I like the options. Which option we select is our choice and we do NOT have to bring in new money if we don't want to.

RobbieMor,

That's right. As I suggested in a previous post, you will NOT need to bring in fresh funds if you do NOT wish to do so.

Sweet! Things are gradually taking shape. Let's hope that DXS balances the economic equation and plugs the loopholes this time around. And let's hope they launch the services this year.

- David

dx4allpro · April 19th, 2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by campco

Why look at it positive if their is a negative option!

Did it ever occur to you that in case DXS would allow to decrease DXCredit as requested, in order to get an account activated by PAYING FRESH FUNDS, they would get fresh funds in their hands!
By not allowing this opportunity DXS chooses not to get fresh funds in their accounts but to let our DXCredit go down the slow way.

The slow way might be in our advantage (and time will tell); when activity is restored before my DXCredit has dwindled down to the bottom I will still have DXCredit that can be turned into DXStandard. You can look at this at the best way possible if you don't have fresh funds to pay up for Service fees right now, but if activity is back you have the maximum of DXCredit (instead of throwing it away now!) to pick up.

So, here is nothing to be seen of money grabbing.

Regards,

Ben

Ben,

Excellent points!

- David

**Succeed2k** · April 19th, 2008, 11:08 PM

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That's right. As I suggested in a previous post, you will NOT need to bring in fresh funds if you do NOT wish to do so.

Of course not. Nobody is arguing that. But we all know that if we don't bring in fresh funds, we have very little chance of ever seeing an OutXchange of the funds currently held in DXS. Please don't put this down to individual choice here, as there are people in DXS who have NEVER taken funds out in the past and are now being asked to put MORE in before they get anything else out.

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Sweet! Things are gradually taking shape. Let's hope that DXS balances the economic equation and plugs the loopholes this time around. And let's hope they launch the services this year.

This is the same thing we've said every year for the last 4 years.

**Succeed2k** · April 19th, 2008, 11:11 PM

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Did it ever occur to you that in case DXS would allow to decrease DXCredit as requested, in order to get an account activated by PAYING FRESH FUNDS, they would get fresh funds in their hands!
By not allowing this opportunity DXS chooses not to get fresh funds in their accounts but to let our DXCredit go down the slow way.

Read the above post. While DXS may be choosing not to get fresh funds, they also don't need to worry about paying funds OUT to anybody who doesn't pay either, so really, your point is moot.

campco · April 20th, 2008, 09:45 AM

As I said Sam:

"Why look at it positive if their is a negative option!"

Whatever DXS is doing right now, you'r not able to look at the bright side, ar you?
I bet, if they come up tomorrow with three actually working services you will find something to corner them. At least, to me, you give this impression.

Regards,

Ben

**Succeed2k** · April 20th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Not at all. If they actually release 3 real usable products then i'll be very pleased. I personally doubt they will though.

As many have said already, it's all great to talk about looking at the positive, but the fact is, after countless years of broken promises, bad products, delayed deadlines, crap communication, and changes that have reduced and minimised the value of the system, there is very little to be positive about, if anything right now. This doesn't even include the people who have put funds in the system, have not taken ANY out, and are now in a position where they need to put MORE in if they want to see anything out!

If they release those products, THAT will definitely be a positive.

But until such time, they remain a group of semi-incompetent people with false promises. I respect that you have confidence in them. I don't agree with it, or understand it (know something we don't?), but i respect it. I only ask that you do the same for those who have a lack of confidence.

campco · April 20th, 2008, 04:14 PM

Hi,

To put things in perspective considering where I stand.

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Not at all. If they actually release 3 real usable products then i'll be very pleased. I personally doubt they will though.

We share the same doubts, but as long as DXS is online I have my hopes as well.

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the fact is, after countless years of broken promises, bad products, delayed deadlines, crap communication, and changes that have reduced and minimised the value of the system,

We know all that. It has been said over and over and over. Repeating doesn't contribute anything but taking away hopes for them who still have a tiny bit of it.

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there is very little to be positive about, if anything right now

I agree, but please for hopes sake, don't stampede on it!

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This doesn't even include the people who have put funds in the system, have not taken ANY out, and are now in a position where they need to put MORE in if they want to see anything out!

Four years back I've put in thousends, The small part I took out I re-invested in DX-related things like GlobalBusiness (2X), tools, monthly fees in forums etc. I have enough to complain about but it doesn't bring me anything. I will not put in fresh funds, no dime, but wait instead for recovery, if it comes back in business I'll be there with what is left of my 21,000 DXG-Credits, the $50 in DXGold and 3,000 DXG-rewards and my Float

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But until such time, they remain a group of semi-incompetent people with false promises. I respect that you have confidence in them. I don't agree with it, or understand it (know something we don't?)

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If people have no confidence left in DXS at all (which I can imagine) them my honest question is what brings them into this forum. If one is attracted because of frustrations only (which I can imagine very well) please don't spoil the little 'fun' others might have left.
For me, if I reach the point of no hope left, I will thank you all for your company and help inhere and say good bye, period.

Regards,

Ben

**Garage Logician** · April 20th, 2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by campco

We know all that. It has been said over and over and over. Repeating doesn't contribute anything but taking away hopes for them who still have a tiny bit of it.

You are so right Ben. Do you think DXS might some day get that figured out?

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Originally Posted by campco

If people have no confidence left in DXS at all (which I can imagine) them my honest question is what brings them into this forum. If one is attracted because of frustrations only (which I can imagine very well) please don't spoil the little 'fun' others might have left.
For me, if I reach the point of no hope left, I will thank you all for your company and help inhere and say good bye, period.

No argument with what you say here but let us consider why many may still be logging in here even though they have given up. Like you they put a considerable amount of funds into DX and even though they do not expect they will ever see any of it back there is one place they can for sure go to know if things may have changed. That is here. They've said good bye to DXS but still need to know if and when there may be the smallest chance they could get even a bit of their funds back. I would imagine you would do the same.