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Old April 16th, 2008, 01:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It's really not a bad thing to pay OA fees with DXCredit. In the past we had to pay with fresh funds. I think people are looking at this in entirely the wrong way.
See, while your point is valid, the issue isn't the paying of fees, but the paying of HIGH fees.

If people want OutXchanges, or in fact, anything good from DXS they need to pay the fee. While letting the fees dwindle down the DXCredit is ok, it could take months before the fee is a reasonable amount. By simply dropping it, it's done right away. As this Credits balance is supposed to be gains anyway, it's not like they would be dropping any input funds, so there shouldn't really be an issue with it.
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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drop DXCredit??
No problem!
Transfer your DXCredit from Available to RB (-1% fee),
then from RB to Available etc
Just how many DXS loopholes have you been manipulating over the last few years?
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 01:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What difference does the "account activation" make? Does anyone REALLY think they'll get their money back if they pay the fees?

I look at this as another attempt at a money grab - just like the Global Company renewal rouse they tried last fall. Fortunately, most didn't fall for it.
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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drop DXCredit??
No problem!
Transfer your DXCredit from Available to RB (-1% fee),
then from RB to Available etc
I don't understand why you would want to do that.
Isn't it still DXCredit whether it is in Available or in RB?
If it is you will still have to pay the Service Fee on it.
Or am I missing something?
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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What difference does the "account activation" make? Does anyone REALLY think they'll get their money back if they pay the fees?

I look at this as another attempt at a money grab - just like the Global Company renewal rouse they tried last fall. Fortunately, most didn't fall for it.
Why look at it positive if their is a negative option!

Did it ever occur to you that in case DXS would allow to decrease DXCredit as requested, in order to get an account activated by PAYING FRESH FUNDS, they would get fresh funds in their hands!
By not allowing this opportunity DXS chooses not to get fresh funds in their accounts but to let our DXCredit go down the slow way.

The slow way might be in our advantage (and time will tell); when activity is restored before my DXCredit has dwindled down to the bottom I will still have DXCredit that can be turned into DXStandard. You can look at this at the best way possible if you don't have fresh funds to pay up for Service fees right now, but if activity is back you have the maximum of DXCredit (instead of throwing it away now!) to pick up.

So, here is nothing to be seen of money grabbing.

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Old April 16th, 2008, 03:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think DXS completely missed the point of the question i was asking.

Ok. say you have a DXCredit balance of $10,000. The fees of course are based on this value, are they not?

So if we asked DXS to simply say, drop $8,000 of that, it would mean we would be left with just $2,000. The fees of course would be a LOT less because there is a smaller balance to base it on.

Now say for example you dropped $9,500 of that DXCredit balance, you might find the fees small enough to warrant bring in funds via F.G.
But doing that just wouldn't make much sense to me... it's like saying "gosh, I made too much money last year and now have to pay taxes... maybe I should just 'give away' all of the money I made"...

In other words... DX-C is an asset... and I understand things, if you don't pay fees directly on it, then the fees will simply be 'taken automatically' from that balance (along w/not providing gains). As such, ones DX-C will simply dwindle down at 3%/mo. That's slowly... So my question would be; "why just 'give your money away' sooner?"

For example; let's say in 3 months that things are 'looking better'... in that case, you would still have 91% of your original (DX-C) asset value left. You could then start paying your fees via FG or IB (etc) and then start to see gains again (as well as still having the full 91% of your initial 'net value') of your DX-C.

But, if you had DX 'just remove it"... well... your asset base would be gone... (since you just 'gave it back' to DX)... and not only that, but now your future earnings would then be based on your smaller account value... so I see no advantage of doing what you've proposed. In fact, I see some severe disadvantages (should DXS services etc really start to happen)...

In the support response, DX seems to clearly state that should be happening... (of course they have said that before)... still, let them 'prove it'... if they do... then great... things will get moving... our accounts should generate plenty enough (plus some) to pay fees with... and... if we would have 'given it back'... we would be very sad.

Worst case... things don't pick up... and one were to choose not to pay fees, then they would simply lose 3% per month... thus... in aprox. 33 months, all of their DX-C will have been all eaten up by fees (w/o gains) on it's own. So again, even if one has doubts, why speed up the process of losing your equity by 'giving it back' to DXS???

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RobbieMor agrees: Well said. I agree. It's like reducing your income from your job so you don't have to pay taxes!
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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See, while your point is valid, the issue isn't the paying of fees, but the paying of HIGH fees.

If people want OutXchanges, or in fact, anything good from DXS they need to pay the fee. While letting the fees dwindle down the DXCredit is ok, it could take months before the fee is a reasonable amount. By simply dropping it, it's done right away. As this Credits balance is supposed to be gains anyway, it's not like they would be dropping any input funds, so there shouldn't really be an issue with it.
I see your point Sam, but they want activity, and people paying their fees should give them that. It has also been said that people who activate their account will see their outxchanges first, so just simply dropping the DXCredit and letting everyone get activated at once, is also not going to help anything.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Just how many DXS loopholes have you been manipulating over the last few years?
If to construct mathematical model of the DX-system, all loopholes become obvious.
I wrote to support about loopholes (year or two back). As a result they have closed only one 'hole'.
Probably they have not understood my English.
I have not need to reduce my DXCredit. I have made it right after article 199, without problems, by other methods.
My offer in this thread only a joke.
This method works (RobbieMor is mistaken).
But this method not for me.
It for you, Succeed2k.
Good luck.
 
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Old April 16th, 2008, 06:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
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