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**fizzgizz** · July 24th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Oceanside Wealth
This program will not be launching until this coming Saturday, July 26.
I will post my sign up link at that time so keep a look out. This is a GET IN EARLY deal folks if you want to get your 2 x 10 matrix filled. It is estimated over 10,000 people will be coming in in the first month. Get your share and get your monthly membership fee paid for right off the bat. We are now seeing programs which empower each and every member to earn without having to complete a cycle, fill a matrix or build a downline; although doing so certainly enhances income in those programs.

The first program to successfully combine the network marketing model with a passive income producing model was QXL3, which is still running; and although it's credit union investment has not produced the 20%/mo originally promised, it has been consistent at just better than 10%/mo compounded for well over a year now which most of us consider very good. The second program to do so was MrsVIP with the added task of surfing someone else's websites each day to get paid. Membership level and amount of ad packages purchased greatly affects overall earnings there. It as well as ASD are advertising programs with a different jargon and are not to be considered investment programs per se. Mrs VIP was followed quickly by the ASD CashGenerator sites; English, Spanish and now Chinese which also require daily surfing and rely heavily on commissions by sponsoring others to reap a significant dollar amount as the daily return on all your ad package purchases is the same and that rebate is spread out over an approximate 125 day 4 month period, and 80% of it was your ad package purchase up front to start with.

Oceanside Wealth (OW) presents a new program which will appeal to the masses. We are witnessing a major transformation in this industry which tends to render referral-based programs obsolete and this is extremely good news for the vast majority of industry participants who have never been able to develop the additional income stream(s) they desperately seek. But with that said, referring others in this program can also enhance the income over and above one's own efforts.

Membership fee
Whereas QLx3 has a $15/mo membership fee plus a $50 annual fee in the credit union, Mrs VIP three monthly membership options, and ASD four membership options which require a monthly fee; so does Oceanside Wealth. That membership fee is $60/mo. The program is projected to produce 10% to 20%/mo return which means $400 of your investment up front is required to pay your monthly membership costs ($400 x 15%ave = $60) unless you get in early and the 2 x 10 matrix pays for it monthly.

There's no surfing here as this is not a surf site. This is REAL forex trading. Sounds familiar, right? Everybody seems to say that what they are doing is real. The difference here is that as members, we get to see the trading taking place in real-time sometimes...and daily charts to show the trading activity that has taken place.

Historical data suggests a 10-20% monthly return. Their lowest month was 3%....their highest was 45%. This is over a 15 month-tracked period of time.

And yes, ..if you plan to refer absolutely no one and we assume a 15% return, then you would need $400 to break even. In actuality, 6 people under you gets you into profit in the matrix...which handily covers the $60/month membership fee. The best guess right now is that we will have close to 10,000 people coming in the first month. Getting in early, there's a VERY high probability of spillover.

Ultimately, I think the incentives are the following:
1) A set-up similar to QLx3...but legit trading & much more transparent
2) Forex training webinars run monthly for those who wish to do trading themselves
3) 10-20% per month average return...think realistic
4) A very real possibility of significant income from the referring side of it...or at least getting your membership costs covered
5) 50% matching bonuses on your personally referred people.

My upline in Oceanside, is doing the incorporations, asset protection work and advising on their offshore set ups...so he is not only poised for the top but comfortable that they are exactly who & what they say they are. I will get signed up as soon as he does and post it on my page right away also. That's Sat July 26th.

He's heard a lot of good things about this company. He feels this program may be the next "V-Lane". This is a new investment opportunity with a 15-20% average earned monthly (some months doing 30-40%). This earning percentage does not expire. The matrix side of the company can prove to be great source of income. This program has a somewhat similar structure to MrsVip & V-Lane Traffic, in the sense that you have to join the matrix to take advantage of the product. In this case, the product is investments. People on the forums are excited to get in early because of the 2x10 "community" forced matrix, where people will be placed automatically LEFT TO RIGHT, all the way down to the first 10 levels. With the amount of excitement this program has been given, you can pretty much count on the 2x10 matrix to fill up quickly with no open spots. Getting in early is wise. I believe that if you get in early, and I mean early, you can bank on making a nice income from the matrix, even if you don't sponsor. Many will be watching closely for launch. Subscription is $60 a month. Weighing risk vs reward, I feel that this opportunity is worth the risk, and the reward can be much higher.

After the initial craze of signups, the 15-20% average monthly return is what should keep the program alive. I won't lie by saying I'm not excited to see what the matrix can bring though.

Message from the company:

"Hello everyone, We are very excited to bring you this phenomenal opportunity with Oceanside Wealth!
I just got off the phone with my web programmer and we should be ready to start putting in positions in the matrix as early as Friday. To give everyone a little foresight of what to expect... REAL RETURNS based on our ACTUAL RETURNS. We use an institutional grade $60 million Forex trading program along with the many years of experience of our trader to bring you phenomenal returns. We will be posting monthly performance graphs along with doing live webinars so you can see our amazing results!
We will also have a built in front-end matrix with a $60 per month membership fee. You will then be able to add any amount in $100 increments on top of that to go into our program. When we say any amount, we mean ANY AMOUNT. There will be no maximum with us as we do not have to "look" for places to put the money. It all gets combined with our personal portfolio to leverage it. The matrix will be a 2 by 10 forced matrix with the first 10 levels "community forced". This means that the first 1046 people will be placed automatically left to right all the way down the first 10 levels.
This will ensure that there are no open spots and no one will get left behind. Jake said that he thinks we will fill the 2 x 10 matrix in about a month, so as soon as we are live, you will want to put your position in ASAP. We will definitely be here for the long haul and are looking forward to helping as many people's dreams come true as possible."
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Those who have seen a demonstration of the trading platform were very impressed.

Oceanside Wealth is very similar to MrsVIP in that they both have...

...a membership matrix structure

...a passive income opportunity*

...the means by which ALL members can earn, whether or not they refer a single person.

Oceanside Wealth is totally passive.

Active marketers should pay close attention to the matrix income potential. I am not going to hype the matrix portion of the program. While there is always significant spillover the moment a program launches, especially a 2-wide matrix, it is not of major significance to inactive members who find themselves on the lower levels of any matrix. It will be of interest to our active members and I suggest that everyone make your contacts aware of Oceanside Wealth. The purpose for the matrix side of the program is to reward the efforts of active marketers and responsible sponsors. Without active marketers these programs would not exist. While we are not required to refer anyone to earn in the matrix, those that do will earn a 50% matching bonus on anyone they do refer!

As is always the case, most of the members of OceanSide Wealth will not be in the "active marketer"
category. Like V-Lane Traffic, they will see the value of the passive portion of the program and they will understand that the returns from the program will greatly exceed the monthly cost of membership assuming they have adequate funds available to make the program work for them. This last statement is true for Mrs VIP and the ASD programs as well. A $200 spend won't cut it, but putting in $1000, $2000, $5000, $10,000 or more will reap some pretty nice returns.

Whether or not this program can perform as advertised and can sustain long - term remains to be seen. If so, I expect that our accounts will grow steadily as has been the case with QLx3 and MrsVIP. One thing is certain. Whenever a forced matrix is part of the equation, joining sooner is always much better than joining later.
From my upline. I wanted to share with you the experience of a lady named Wendy who was invited
to take a look at the live forex trading for Oceanside. This is what she had to report:
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"While you all were debating the merits of matrices and such, I was privy to viewing the workings of the forex robotic trading system. I have to say I am impressed with this type of trading which is being used by most institutional traders for the big cheeses like Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and numerous hedge funds popping up trading forex NOW. It is the fashionable thing to do you know.... but anyway this software can trade 20-30 currency pairs per day and make 100's of trades per month. And it does have a human at the helm monitoring it! Which makes it the best of both of worlds it seems...

While you are all salivating about matrix earnings and that is ok but let us not forget why the matrix is in place and what the piece de resistance is---the trading account.. the matrix is just the appetizer. But this is the perfect mix for success.. this MLM'er/investor hybrid. That is why I believe it will be successful..

So think of the $60/month fee as a brokerage fee or commission turnaround or membership fee or loading fee... and the forex account as the main vehicle to make you a stable income for at least 10 years as we were told.

The trader is not online savvy nor is he familiar with the HYIP mentality... and to him returns of 5%/month are astounding... and we all should start thinking about this for long-term... his live trading averages about 10-20%/month with a low of 3% in April and 55% in June...

My observation is to get in now and think of this as a long-term building program for your portfolio.. there has been a lot of hype here.. and we need a paradigm shift as I have been telling my own members for some time... 6% programs are good if they pay you for 10 years or longer even.. and are realistic.. so this 10-20% is phenomenal and I highly recommend this program on just the merits of the trading part itself.

There really has been little discussion about that part of it.. but I cannot wait to add it to my collection of good solid programs.. and feel it will be well worth to get into it whenever you are ready to join.
I will look at this as something to put substantial money into just for the sake of the managed forex account." Thought you'd be interested....
The payment processors will be....
Strict Pay, Solid Trust Pay and Alert Pay.

Just LAUNCHED -- HURRY! Here is my URL:

Oceanside Wealth :: Home

**fizzgizz** · August 1st, 2008, 05:10 PM

I already know how to trade forex...but there are many strategies out there and I'm always interested in learning new ones. I have a 10 CD's that go over forex trading that cost SOMEONE over $2K apparently....my friend copied them for me so I got them for free...but they were very in depth and very helpful. I'm more interested in the returns they claim they have gotten over the past years.... But you know what they say...curiosity killed the cat.

**CuriousGeorge** · August 2nd, 2008, 11:50 AM

Well, so far she is beating the FR method returns. I'm going to put some real money in the account and see if that changes anything, just as soon as I can find that charge card I put in a safe place. Really safe place. Really safe from me, anyway.

**CuriousGeorge** · September 12th, 2008, 11:44 AM

Received this from Ken Russo with permission to post it.

Quote:

Russ,

In case some of your readers got caught up in Oceanside Wealth
you may want to post the following 2 messages in your OW thread.

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Message # 1

STP NOW PROCESSING OCEANSIDE WEALTH REFUNDS

Send your request for a refund now

Here is a copy of my last message to Stella at STP this morning

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Stella,

Some members (very few) have reported that they have received a refund from STP.

Can you confirm this?

Do you have any news to report since your last post copied below.

I still have many members inquiring about STP refunds and I have no idea
what to tell them.

Ken
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Here is Stella's reply...

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HI there Ken,

We got tired of OceanSide and all their nonsense so just started doing the refunds
ourselves for those who have written in.

Anyone who wishes a refund can request it via priority@solidtrustpay.com and we will take
care of them.

Nothing further to add to the post below except that I've been banned from the forum :-)

Kind regards,

Stella
Customer Support Manager
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What a shame that Stella has to use her own resources to take care of OW's business.

Here is the message I sent to STP to request my refund....

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Subject: Oceanside Wealth Refund Request

Greetings STP admin team,

In response to Stella's message below I am requesting a reversal of the payment
sent to Oceanside Wealth. Here is a copy of the transaction...

Transaction ID: 2170808
To bigbadboy
From krusso
Total Amount -61.50
Fee Amount 0
Net Amount -61.50
Description Payment For 10087
Date 26 Jul 2008 @01:32 AM

Thanks for for your assistance in this matter

Ken Russo

STPay PRIORITY wrote:

We got tired of OceanSide and all their nonsense so just started doing the refunds
ourselves for those who have written in.

Anyone who wishes a refund can request it via priority@solidtrustpay.com and we will take
care of them.

Kind regards,

Stella
Customer Support Manager

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Message number 2

Get your refunds while you can everyone. The folks at STP have no intention of being
of being permanent babysitters for the clowns at Oceanside Wealth.

Follow these simple steps...

1. Prepare an email message with "Oceanside Wealth Refund Request"
in the subject line

2. In the message body write....

Greetings STP admin team,

I am requesting a reversal of the payment sent to Oceanside Wealth. My transaction
ID number is (insert ID number)

Thanks for for your assistance in this matter

Your Name

3. Send to - priority@solidtrustpay.com

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Messages like this one are pouring in....

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Thanks, I sent it in again a few minutes ago and received a refund within 15 minutes with
the following response below. Thanks a lot for keeping after them and looking out for your
members. Blessings, Margie

----- Original Message -----
From: STPay PRIORITY
To: Margie Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: OW

Thank you for contacting SolidTrust Pay. I am happy to assist you!

DONE :-) We held off on previous requests because the admin was promising to do them
himself.
I'm happy to complete this for you now.

Kind regards,

Stella
Customer Support Manager

----- Original Message -----

From: Margie Kraus
To: priority@solidtrustpay.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: OW

Stella,

I have sent in 5 requests from OW and now 4 from STP. Please refund as I was never put
into
the matrix in this program which is just plain fraud.

Thank you very much,
Marjorie Kraus
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This message points to another disturbing act. Margie stated she was never put into
the matrix. What is that all about!!

Anyone who is still promoting this really needs to take off their blinders. As I have
said many times - J D Kaiser and company have acted in concert with Broker Jones
and his Team Avalanche and have accomplished their goal of short-term monetary gain.
What they have lost in the process will take it's toll for years to come. I will never
understand
how they could have pulled such a dim-witted and short-sighted stunt. Their display of
total
disregard for decent and trusting folks is mind boggling.

GET YOUR REFUND NOW!!

More importantly, remember the names of the folks who are mainly responsible for this
mess, JD Kaiser and company and their affiliation with Broker Jones and his "Team
Avalanche".

**mwong92683** · September 12th, 2008, 04:00 PM

I also feel I was never put into the matrix, even though I started on the "supposed" day #1 - - - but sadly, I paid through AlertPay, so I don't think Stella can help me at all.

Combine that with the fact that the program was supposed to be started on Aug 03, then bumped up to June 28th, and then opened up early on the 27th.

I clearly see people in my upline with start dates of June 21, 25 and 27! What is up with that??? That even surpasses all the commotion about opening up a few hours ahead of schedule. That is a WEEK prior to going live! So even with that confusion about when it was going to start, how does one get into a program, and get added to the matrix a WEEK before it opens up?

Something is clearly fishy with this whole thing!

**CuriousGeorge** · September 12th, 2008, 08:37 PM

Can you point this out to alertPay and ask for a reversal?

**mwong92683** · September 12th, 2008, 09:10 PM

I'm actually in the process of trying to get a refund from OceansideWealth. I did get a response to my support ticket, and I'm sending supporting docs, so hopefully they will make the refund? At least they didn't answer with "too bad, so sad" - we'll see what happens. I'll be sure to post any updates.