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mufad · February 16th, 2008, 06:43 AM

Hi Friends,
Over the past 5 years, I have been involved with various MLM, HYIP, Internet Marketing and ecurrency programs, but the only one I still promote is Global Domains - I made my own website to tell my story -
Thanks for providing the opportunity to share,
Mufad.

nlopedota · February 16th, 2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scribbler

I agree with shinningstar totally..and one thing I should have mentioned above in my post is that there is at least one trading portal out there that allows you to make an income from marketing it's service, but that is for those who would or are interested in going down that road. My point above is we should try and get our heads around the "how to" of trading here as a group, using this forum to learn and them taking that knowledge out onto the Net and using it to make a rel growing income over time.

Don't forget, we are talking about an arena where over US$3 BILLION changes hands EACH DAY..one in which our own local banks are making a killing and paying us a few % once a year for the pleasure of doing so! If they can do..they way can't we??

Let me put that another way.. If they can do..then why AREN'T we??

All it takes is for us to UNDERSTAND how to trade and to trade effectively. I am talking about coming at this like the real business that it is..not treating it as if it were some kind of gamble. Sure there is a level of risk involved..there is risk involved in everything we do in life..but it's only a gamble if we don't know what we are doing.

On this point we need, as shinningstar pointed out above, somebody to show us how to do this the right way..and I know there are some out there who can..that is if we can't find somebody in our own group here who could teach us.

One last point to think about.. Do you realize if you started out with a trading balance of only US$100 and were able to double your balance only once each month, you would have over US$400,000 in your account by the end of the year.

OK..enough from me on all of this. Make of it what you will and please share your own views. We all have a say here and by sharing our views at this stage, we will become a stronger group all because of it.

All the best once again..

Dan
(scribbler)

There are many here I believe that were only looking for moderate income from the DX program and quite obviously were very disappointed at the near manic complexity and ambiguity resulting in a failed attempt.
I have been working at trading equities for years and am up 12% for the year (very diciplined effort and a rigorous learning curve) . Trading is not for the faint of heart. Your Forex thought can be started with little money and may be a good idea if implemented properly.

nlopedota · February 16th, 2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticGold

Ah Love yes! I would Love to have a new good reason to visit every day.

Cheers!

and Love

MG

So would I .

biglou · February 16th, 2008, 07:53 AM

I finally found success in the wellness industry and it's not fake like 98% of the crap on the internet. After investing 18 thousand dollars in DXinOne three years ago and have not been able to get my money back, I knew I was suckered into the most elaborate ponzi scheme that I've ever seen. It's ok because I have found a product that the baby boomers want and need and they happen to be the largest consumable market in the world. In one year I've been able to produce a 100 thousand a year residual income with a product that is showing amazing results. In the next three years the baby boomers are going to dominate the wellness industry resulting in the next trillion dollar a year industry. The secret to my success is that I target people 35 and older and share this product with them and the result is that they become addicted to feeling good. With two ounces twice a day for four dollars a day, thay can get the equivalent of 13 servings of fruit in their bodies from 4 ounces of juice. The key here is a convenient, inexpensive and powerful delivery system for your well being. If an apple a day keeps the doctor away, can you imagine what 18 fruits combined with the number one superfood in the world can do.

scribbler · February 16th, 2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mufad

Hi Friends,
Over the past 5 years, I have been involved with various MLM, HYIP, Internet Marketing and ecurrency programs, but the only one I still promote is Global Domains - I made my own website to tell my story
Thanks for providing the opportunity to share,
Mufad.

Mufad, please don't take this the wrong way..I REALLY mean that..but your post above has just worked as a perfect of example of what I was saying above in my post. I'm aware of GDI and have been for a long time now, but didn't join simply because it, just like so many other out there requires you to market in order to grow your business and, in turn, your income...even if it is only a mere $10 per month.

You seem to miss the very essence of what I'm talking about here..that it is always the case that we have to sell something for somebody else in order to earn online, when in truth this is not the truth at all! Most of us would love to be as successful as you in our chosen business, but when it comes to marketing online, most fall far short and fail miserably because they simply just cannot get enough folks to join under them and keep them there..no matter what the business might be.

You,yourself, have stated on your web page just how good you are at this and how you hope to be at "the top spot of the leaderboards" this year, but the sorry fact of this and any other online business id there are only a certain number of spots at the top of any such board..so what about everyone else?

Once again, Mufad, please don't take this as a personal attack on you or your success with GDI, I'm sure you have been around long enough online to understand the point I am making here. You see, in the end, no matter what, ALL online opportunities and those involved with them will tell everyone else that theirs is the best thing online, but in the end, it's just a case of good marketing and nothing more. If folks join under you then you stand to earn more as a result of growing your downline even more..

When it comes to trading on the ForEx market YOURSELF, then it is up to you how much you make each day and how much time you put into trading. You do not depend on having to grow the numbers under you or keeping them active in the company..there is no company only you and your PC.

By the way, I am not talking about one of those programs out there that offer to invest your funds in the ForEx market and pay you a set return..that is not trading but in most cases nothing more than a HYIP type game..one in which most will lose in the end.

If you are trading in ForEx for yourself, then sure you will lose some trades, but that is not how you approach this business. You need to see it as a long term venture, as an investment in your own future and understand that there will be good trades and bad trades but none of them should be taken as the end of it all. Don't forget a person who is trading for themselves should and would have learnt how to do so long before they actually set about doing it for real, by using one of the many free trading accounts with one of the major online trading firms..and you don't even need funds to do this, just time and practice, until you know what you are doing.

One last point..and perhaps the most important one of all is this: it's a myth that you cannot make money from trading ForEx ..ANYONE CAN..it's only those who make mistakes or don't know what they are doing who lose money at this. Understand this..banks are in the business of making money, no losing it and trading in ForEx is one of their biggest daily earners..and one of the things they do which is open to us all right now. There is no product to sell..no downline to build and keep active..no monthly stock to buy in order to make money..just learn what you need to know from the start..practice..and then do it for real in small steps, using say 1/10th or less of your total account balance for trading..and then watch it grow.

This is not some flash in the pan kind of thing, but rather a life-long means of growing personal wealth..far more than you will or could from any other source. If you don't believe me then go and google search "learning how forex trade for free" or some similar term and then start reading. You'll soon see what I mean and where I am coming from on this.

All the best to you all..

Dan
(scribbler)

scribbler · February 16th, 2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nlopedota

..I have been working at trading equities for years and am up 12% for the year (very diciplined effort and a rigorous learning curve) . Trading is not for the faint of heart. Your Forex thought can be started with little money and may be a good idea if implemented properly.

nlopedota,

When you say above that you have been "trading equities" for years, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I take that to mean you have been dealing in stocks and bonds with regards to "real world" companies and portfolios, which is slightly different from ForEx, as ForEx is more fluid in nature and in a state of constant flux. By this I mean off line "stocks and bonds trading" is limited in hours to those kept by the major world trading houses and brokers, whereas the ForEx market is constantly open for business, with one market opening when the other is closing for the day elsewhere in the world.

Mind you, I do agree with your point that trading is not for the faint of heart..and I hope everyone who reads this takes this in and remembers this fact: There IS serious risk involved, but you CAN manage that level of risk if you understand what you are doing..the key is understanding in all of this. If you know what you are doing..what is happening an should happen, and then use caution, you can and will make a profit..but you must not become greedy or you will end up taking stupid risks that will wipe you out financially.

Ok..enough from me on this..and sorry if it appears I have hijacked this thread. didn't mean to, but it just kind of snowballed and I couldn't help myself.

Bye for now..

Dan
(scribbler)

mufad · February 16th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Hi Dan,
Whlie forex trading has a high risk as it is subject upps and downs in the exchange rate, ecurrency exchange is always profitable.
But currency exchange in most countries requires a licence, dxinone provided a very nice system and concept for ecurrency exchange but it did not survive. I do agree that such a system of making profit from ecurrency trading that is always profitable is vey attractive concept and if it could be practically impliminted successfully then it will e a big hit. Dx tried to go into auctions, news, payment gateways and what not, in the process it messed up the ecurrency exchange part - the merchant console part that used to work and made sense about 2 years ago before dxgold was renamed to dxinone. I guess the portfolio part was the cause of the downfall of dx, because there was no real reason that we could see for the increase in the vlaue of the digots. The gains came from nowhere - that was te problem.

The original topic was to share what has worked for us and that is why I posted my site

If anyone knows of an ecurrency exchange system that we can profit from then I want to hear about also. May be 4allaccounts (dx4dummies aka dx4all and now 4allaccounts) can make such a system for us.

Mufad.

**April** · February 16th, 2008, 02:14 PM

I just wanted to chime in here & say how pleased I am to hear from members who we really haven't heard from before. I hope this is part of an ongoing trend, that as we expand, we'll see more & more new faces here

However, I would like to remind everyone that the forum rules still apply here, particularly the no advertising rule. If you have a website to promote, you can sign up for a platinum subscription, which will allow you to add a link in your signature line. We are working on ways to allow members to purchase advertising in other ways as well.

So please, keep giving us your input as to how we can make this place the thriving community it deserves to be, and leave the advertising out of it, ok?

Thanks!

April

George76 · February 16th, 2008, 02:32 PM

that what most folks are looking for is someway to make money on the Internet without much training and work and very little investment. Keep dreaming as there is no such animal. Historically the only way to make money and create wealth is to spend less then you make for a long period of time.
Building wealth is time consuming, requires investment, and a steep learning curve. Believe me if it were easier than that everybody would be doing it.
Also it takes a saving mentality and not a buying mentality. We usually form the buying habit pretty early in life.
My cycle seems to have been when I started earning a living I thought if I could just make another $15.00 a month we would be on easy street. Then when the kids started coming along if we could only make another $50.00 a month we would be all right. Our income kept increasing until we wished for only another $150.00 a month, then $1,000 a month until we retired and now it is back to only $15.00 a month to make the difference.
Most wealth is created by buying something and reselling it at a higher price. Or investing and reaping a dividend. There just ain't no other way to do it.
I am sure we will come up with a lot of good ideas. But keep it mind that the best ideas will require time, training and investment of some kind. Which ones are they? None will make you rich over night. If you want to build a fortune, write a best seller, become a movie start, an athletic star or sell drugs and don't get caught. Or inherit it or hit the lottery.
I hope I live long enough to find out what the best deal is.